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程博仪Northern Wilderness, Solo Traverse of the Great Chang TangMr YANG Liusong, a Chinese who just finished the first solo traverse over Chang Tang by cycling from west to east in recorded human history, shared his stunning Expedition with all of us through the forum 8264 https//bbs.8264.com/thread-512349-1-1.html . In order to share his legendary journey with those who cannot read Chinese, I translate his story to English here, which has been approved by Mr YANG Liusong. Hope you guys enjoy it.为了让杨同学的传奇能让全世界的驴友分享，俺决定把杨同学的帖子翻译成英文。为了避免麻烦，俺先来个免责声明：1。杨同学不认识俺，也没有授权俺，如果他说不要翻译了那俺就随时终止；2。俺没有商业目的，译版版权归杨同学，俺啥也不要，也不承担法律责任；3。没有杨同学授权，不敢擅自发在国外网站，发在原帖处，荣誉归8264；4。俺英语水平有限，欢迎指正，欢迎转贴。 Northern Wilderness, Solo Traverse of the Great Chang TangBy Yang LiusongIt has been three months since I traversed the unpopulated region in the Great Chang Tang. There are many like-minded asking me about it. I now present this thread to briefly tell everybody about my journey.The starting point of this traverse was from the highest peak of the western part of the Tibetan plateau, Jieshan Daban, and the day was April 20, 2010.I was heading eastward passing Bungdag Co, Yanghu Co, Rola Co, and Kangzhagri Mountain, which crossed over the desolate region from west to east. The journey continued northward to enter the unpopulated area of Altun Mountains, through Hoh Xil Mountains, Kunlun Mountains, Whale lake, ..., finally met some people by the Aqqikkol Hu and then arrived in Huatugou by vehicle three days later and that day was July 5. It had been 77 days in total. I had been all alone 74 days after leaving Jieshan Daban until arriving inAqqikkol Hu, which was about 1400km and about four months.[The Great Chang Tang] In Tibetan, ";Chang Tang" means northern empty wilderness while narrowly, means unpopulated region in northern part of Tibet. However, it actually indiCATes all of the no man's land in northern. The great Chang Tang includes desolate places in Northern Tibet, Hoh Xil, Alun Mountains, and Kunlun Mountains, which are interconnected to form the unique and super empty wilderness in the world. Only because Hoh Xil is the most known name, most people just think this vast land is equivalent to Hoh Xil. In reality, Hoh Xil is only a small piece of the Great Chang Tang both administratively and geologically. The Great Chang Tang, the last land to chase your freedom and dream.The route that I traversed ForeplayI arrived in Tibet in the early March, a couple of troubles bothered me. The brand new plug got its positive and negative wrongly connected; the rivets of my rucksack eASIly got broken from now and again; and a multi-functional charger got damaged and so on. Riding my bike to Ngari for warming up of this journey, lost my rucksack but later got it back; lost my camera bag and got it back later again, and finally lost a big bicycle pannier in the street of Gyangze town under the eyes of police, including clothes, solar panel and so on.Without much choice, I returned to Lhasa to adjust all the stuff I would need in the wilderness. Then I begged some luck by going to Nyingchi to enjoy the blossoms of peach trees and to take a hot spring bath. I even had the privilege to enjoy time with ten girls in the hot spring. I felt my bad luck had all gone and then returned to Lhasa again to prepare going to Ngari. I did not expect that I was cheated on by some hustler and lost some money and delayed my schedule for a week. I had to find a car myself quickly to Nagri. However, I lost the tool for fast-parting my rear wheel on my way to Nagri, where was a remote area in Tibet and nowhere to buy the tool. Even if there was one in Lhasa it would take at least ten days for a special delivery service. I was lucky that my mate Duola asked a driver to bring the tool for me from Lhasa. I thought there should be no more nightmare like this but the nozzle of my brand new multi-fuel stove was broken. The next day I tried everywhere to weld them back together. The first three shops could not do the welding for copper. The fourth one said they could do it but could not guarantee a sUCCess. The engineer said it would be ten Chinese yuans if it was a success. I agreed. Just in seconds, my nozzle became crap in a flash of lightening. I was so upset. Again, Duola helped me by bringing her own MSR oil stove and Dingding's sleeping bag to Nagri. That was already April 16 and I did not have much time to waste. The following day I found a vehicle heading to Jieshan Daban.The sand storm over Yarlung Zangbo RiverA lonely peach tree blossoming in Yarlung Zangbo Grand CanyonNatural hot spring in wild, me singing and drinking (photo by a friend of mine) Day 1(April 20), 16km, Camping 5192mIt was a truck with a full load of iron wastes, arriving in Jieshan Daban at 6'o clock in the morning. It was still night and extremely cold and dark. Driver was not bothered to pop his head out of the driving cab. I climbed up on the top of the iron wastes, taking my bicycle down. In a hurry, I punched my old water bag. Fortunately I had another MSR water bag given by a friend of mine otherwise I would definitely fail without even starting my journey. For the first time for me to set up the brand new tent in strong, cold winds. It would be impossible to do so if the tent was not a whole piece. Extremely cold outside, about -15C, might be lower than that, I put my head into the sleeping bag but was nearly suffocated to death, honestly. The smell of Dingding's sleeping bag was, lol, so extraordinary. I woke up around 11 o'clock. There were still strong winds outside so that I had to use my bodyweight to keep the tent in place. At the time when I just started to cook and eat, four patrolling soldiers approached me. To their surprise someone, in this season, camped in Jieshan Daban. I was so nervous and afraid they were the people to block my journey because I was caught and deported from the desolate land last year. Luckily the four soldiers did not know my destination and were very kind to me. After they left, I immediately packed my stuff and pushed my bike into the depths of the unpopulated area just in case anything unexpected happened.The bike was very heavy due to the provisions and hard to control. There was even a quite small hill that I had to remove my bike panniers to get over it. This really struck me because this happened even the path was still the hardship one at the moment and I could not imagine what I would do once I entered the uncertain, endless wilderness. Until now I had not met anyone, even the nomadic pastoralists. I remembered there were quite a few of them roaming at the edge of the northern Tibetan plateau last year. All of these indicated it was not the good pasture season in such low temperature and strong winds. Around 16km there was a sheep cote, where I passed it last year, east of Lungmu Co. I was exhausted at this point so that I decided to camp in here and to rest my head. After arranging tent everything I went out to look for the wetland discovered by Duola and Liumeng last year. I was determined to find it.There were many hot springs in the wetland which were underground water with a constant temperature. The wetland therefore became an ideal habitat for some fishes and weeds under such harsh weather, which was the very unique land feature of terrain in this over 5200m highland.Perpetual snow in the valley blown to corn shape by strong windsThis wetland was discovered by Duola and Liumeng. The workers at a nearby mine did not know it and I too missed it last yearUnderground water with a constant temperature, an ideal habitat for some fishes and weeds under such icy weather 感谢大伙儿支持和加分，不一一回复了。特别感谢多啦，希望能有机会一起喝酒吃肉。 Day 2 (April 21), 0km, Camping5192mBlustering gale all night, up and down like ocean waves. The next day rather than continuing to travel, I stayed inside the sheep cote, hesitating and pondering over. Indeed, there were so many problems before this journey;I did not have sufficient physical preparation;the load had already reached its limitation; I still coughed a lot;the weather was so extreme and cold. All in all, I did not think this journey was well prepared and I did not have confidence in completing this journey mentally and physically. To do, or not to do, it was the question. Similarly I did not have confidence in my facilities, not knowing whether all of them would work functionally or not. The fact was one of the rivets got broken again and the front rack came loose. In the afternoon, I replaced all the rivets of the panniers with screws I had prepared before. This was an excellent job I had done which gave me no further troubles throughout my whole journey. I also re-adjusted the front rack. However I did not think it would definitely all right because I did not have a tool to do it. When the darkness descended,I made up my mind to continue my journey, which, of course, was not beyond any imagination. Orchid-like weedsSmall springs everywhere, clear and chillyA thin layer of ice covering the fresh spring water The sheep cote, it was the door under the sleeping bag, which was in the same place as last year, everything looked like yesterdayThe wetland at duskLungmu Co at dusk. You could hear the gigantic sound of wind if the picture had a sound Day 3 (April 22), 52.4km, Camping 5145mGot up in the morning, could not put everything into the bags. Without much choice I had to throw away three portions of tsampa, elbow pads, and crampons. Following the road of the lead-zinicmine I found the side path to enter the wilderness, which was on the riverbed and very hard to see. I missed this side path last year so that I had to take a short cut into the wilderness directly then. That was why I had taken extra care to find the side path. The following journey was to get over a big hill, which lay 5275m above sea level and was the highest point of my whole journey. Around 2 o'clock in the afternoon, I passed the side path leading to Orba Co and started a journey which was complete strange to me. I ate a piece of pilot breads, which was frozen like rocks so that I had to use my spade to crush it. At 6 o'clock in the evening, I had pushed plus rode my bicycle for about 32 km. I reckoned I should have been able to double this if I did no carry such heavy load. The wind became stronger and stronger. I opened the parasail kits and tested it. The result was far beyond what I expected. With the aid of the strong wind I was just like flying over the wilderness. After 8 o'clock in the evening, I started to observe the water Source and to get ready to camp. Map showed there were successive springs along the path and assembled to puddles. But I had overestimated the water source here in this land and in this season there were endless wilderness inside the valley, where I could not see a single drop of water. As it became darker and darker, I felt a little bit nervous which resulted in three spokes of the parasail broken and became a useless rubbish. Anyway, it helped me to move forward 20km more which benefited me a lot later on. When time approached 9.30 pm, it was almost completely dark. I had to lie my bike on the ground and went on to try to find water on the north side of the valley. This was a wide and flat sandy land, where I could not see any ditches there and further was complete darkness. I returned to get my GPS to look up the contours and found the south part of the valley was closer to a hill so I took the way. Finally I found a piece of ice in a ditch. I smashed about 20litre of ice. The ice was quite shallow scattered with sheep poo. On my way back, my eyes were hurt by strong winds, which got me a couple of days to recover. It was nearly 23 o'clock after I set up the tent. It also took about 40 mins to melt the ice. I was so tired and my appetite was completely spoiled. I then had a little bit of milk. I had never expected thing would go like this, it was so distressing. Streams along the path, ice everywhereThe river flew into Matou Hu, in whose north part there was a satellite lake, a wonderful ice-skating court It took 40mins to melt the ice in midnight Day 4 (April 23), 31km, Camping 5028mA cloudy day with gusts. From now and again, hails chased me from behind. Sunny spell. Heavy sandy land made me have to push my bike. At 3pm, I arrived at Luxing Hu, where there was a house made of clay. This was the last permanent building of my journey. Last year, Duola and Liumeng once lived in this house for three days without meeting anybody. It seemed it was the same but the truck parking in front of the house made me worry about. I went to the sheep cote first to check over, where there were only a few lambs following me everywhere I went later on. This made me feel warm in my heart. I observed farther places using my binoculars but could not see any people or sheeps. After making sure there were no people around I opened the locked door using a screwdriver. The living room was very clean. There were two boxes of beverages on the ground and a string of cured lamb legs hanging over in the interior room. A pot of water was on the top of the stove, lukewarm, which indicated the host must be not far away from his home. I filled up my water bag and left the house. I also put the screws back to the door in order not to leave any trace of my visiting. I then took a spanner from the toolbox of the truck, which gave me great help for the rest of the journey.I left the house as quickly as possible. After last year's experience, the nomadic pastoralists were the last people I wanted to meet. A few hundred meters away from the house, the vehicle traces were fading fast. Even downhill, I had to push rather than to ride because of the heavy loose sand. From the route point of view, only after Luxing Hu it was the real unpopulated land. After many days, I thought of the lamb legs from time to time. It was pity that I then had plenty of provisions and the bike was too heavy to carry anything more. Continue to melt the ice under the morning sunshine, all of the sheep poo had been removed carefullyCamping site, the little hill over there was the place where I got the ice last nightThe house by the Luxing Hu, empty, the last permanent building I saw throughout my journeyDay 5 (April 24), 19.8km, Camping 4951mSet off at 10.30 in the morning, the weather was similar to yesterday. Probably this road was the high plain or somewhere the wind passed so that it was so windy. The average wind speed was degree 6 but could reach degree 9 in the blick of an eye. The road was still full of sand and very heavy to walk on it. My eyes became worse under such harsh weather. About three o'clock in the afternoon, I saw something in my right, looked like antenna. I went closer to see what it was and found out it was an iron tower (the triangulation station). In 1970s, a joint team from Chinese three military regiments entered this area doing research. They have left a lot of triangulation stations and benchmarks, which I had the priviledge to see them today.At dusk, I approached to a spring by the Bungdag Co, which flew into the frozon lake. The sand and soil, brought by the strong wind, scattered on the surface of the ice all over the lake. There were so many cracks around the icey surface of the lake. I geussed it must be caused by the springs under the water rather than by melted ice. In the west of the Bungdag Co was the side path leading to Keriya Pass, where a SUV could reach directly. I had looked out any vehicle Tracks but failed. The cloudy sky started to snow. I set up the tent comfortably because I knew that I was safe having such a sweet spring beside me.Triangulation station erected by scientists from the joint research team on Chang Tang of three military regiments in 1971[size=+0]The gap between water and ice in Bungdag Co, I guessed there must be some springs under the lakeThe storm just above the ground, a chaotic darkness[size=+0]Icy Bungdag Co,one of the four biggest lakes in Northern Tibet, wild ducks flying over this vastness and lonenessSnowing at any time, should not happen so frequently like this in this seasonDay 6 (April 25), 4.3km, Camping 5002mWeathering landforms everywhere around this area. Spongy volcanic rocks could be found easily. I pushed my bike turning around a small hill, seeing a big river, the Yinshui He, flowing from Orba Co into Bungdag Co, which I had been to its upstream last year. It was also a passage for animal migration. The downstream of the river was extremely wide and broad. The thickess of the ice layer could reach one meter with the main stem in the middle course of the river, very deep. There were a few springs along the river, sweet and clear.I only went forward a little bit more than 4km but I had walked more than 20km for finding my way. It was not possible to cross the main stem, let alone the north bank of Bungdad Co. What I could only do was to try to find a shallow place to cross. But the southern area was a even larger piece of wetland and forced the road turn towards west. I spent a couple of hours but failed to find a good point to cross the river. In the afternoon, I decided to follow the edge of the wetland. When I reached the hill foot, the wetland finally disappeared. Around this area, there were clearly volcanic feature of terrain and I even found traces of pasturing and cairns made from volcanic rock.Here was the last pasturing trace I found throughout my journey, I guessed it was a summer pasture area. After this, there was no clear sign of human activities in this vast wilderness. I had been looking for my ways until it was dark. I made up my mind where to go TOMOrrow. The terrain here looked like Yardang landforms, as well as volcanic landforms The Yinshui He river from Orba CoSprings scattered all over the river bank, painted green by lovely algaeThe river was very deep. The mixture of green and amber colour showed the sand and mud carried by the melted iceThick layer of ice, sunken surface caused by strong gustsThe south course of the Yinshui He, countless small streams. To the right was the wetlandLooking for ways in the east, a trace of pasturing and the cairn made from spongy volcanic rocksMy camp, opposite to the hillDay 7 (April 26), 11km, Camping 5009mI moved forward to the direction I found yesterday, turning around the wetland and walking toward east. At 2pm, I was blocked by the zigzag Yinshui He again and I had no choice but to cross it. The river was about 700m wide, covered by ice which appeared very different. The hanging ice, the folding ice, the piling-up ice, the icy puddle, and the sleet were everywhere along the river bank. Having noticed all of these, I reckoned the river would be receding at dusk, which was why there were so many different shapes and forms of ice. I put my slipper on, going into the main stream of the river. I found there were at least three different courses of the river, the thickness of the surface ice varied and the river water reached above my knees. I sighed there would be no way back once I crossed this river. There are many ways in one's life too, you can only take it once and you will no long have the courage to repeat it.I pushed the bike crossing the river. Some of the ice was a bit soft, jamming the tyres so that I had to use my feet to break them first. Some of the ice was a bit thick but with half-melted underneath, sticking the the bike completely, some of the ice was half-water half-ice with a sandy riverbed, which was really hard to pass. I had to remove all of the panniers at the last stage of the crossing. I spent the whole four hours to cross the river, my legs got many bloody cuts. At 6pm, the surface ice was almost disappeared completely, the river level rapidly rising to a chaotic status. I thought if I hesitated a little bit at that time, I could not have the courage to cross this river under such circumstances. The river bank was unimaginably sandy and was quite steep. I had to unloaded the panniers again to reach the top of the bank. By the time of sunset, the weather became exceptionally good. The sunlight from the descending sun, the blue sky, the faint moon, .... I liked such a colorful and peaceful Chang Tang and very much enjoyed my camp and myself bathed in such beautiful colour.The ice like this was very thin and suspended, far away from the main stemHard surface with half-melted underneath, the soft sand at the botton was most scaryThe ice like this could easily jam the wheels, hard to get it outI had to unload the panniersChaotic water and terrible hails turned up in no timeThe Chang Tang at the moment liked it used to be,a mixture of cold and warm tones under the golden setting sun Day 8 (April 27), 14.6km, Camping 5112mLast night, I forgot to bring in the odometer, which was out of order due to the coldness in midnight. Since then I used GPS to check the mileage. The digital thermometer was no longer working. I had to use mercury thermometer to collect data. Night temperatures were basically between –15℃—–20℃ while the temperature inside my tent was about –10℃. The advantage of the integrated tent was that it limited the ventilation so to keep warm inside. However, it got clearly disadvantage of heavy condensation and dew. Every morning, there was plenty of frost inside the tent so that I had to put my hood on First Before fully getting dressed. The winds in Chang Tang finally became consistent with the pattern I had researched the other day no or very tiny wind in the morning, strong wind started after 2pm, and then at around 8pm its strength was reduced again. The accuracy of this prediction was about 80%.The road was very bad today. I walked whole afternoon in an ancient riverbed and it was so difficult that I had to use all of my strengths to move a small step forward and then to stop to breath, slower than a snail. After five hours' struggling, my eyes got wet when I saw the grassy river bank. Finally! The nightmare was over.Cold and clear morningHeavy morning condensation in the interior, a lot of frost to clearSuch dawning sunlight indicated a cloudy day ahead Day 9 (April 28), 18km, 5072mIn the morning I entered a range of sandy roads which were so terrible. The solar panel specially designed for GPS got short circuited. After checking it was found to be the diode got damaged. Luckily I got a replacement. Because the GPS was exclusively supplied by a solar panel so that it was no longer a problem for the power supplement of GPS. In a period of 70 days, I did replace the battery once, which saved me a lot of alkaline batteries. I did have another solar panel of 5.4 W which was used specifically for 7.5V Camera, DV and other digital facilities. Unlike water, I had never been short of power.At 7pm in the evening, I arrived at Pur Co. The surface of this lake was very odd the ice by the river bank rose and the river bank was broken, I reckoned that was due to the strong winds. The ice there was mingled with something yellow, could be the stain of alkali. There were many wild yaks on the other side of the lake. There could be two brown bears but I could not be for certain. On the east side of the lake, there was a peninsula leading to the centre of the lake. I camped just opposite to the peninsula. At night , I smashed the ice to get drinking water, which tasted alkali. For the first time I cooked the cereals, which was brought completely by accident. This was just because I found there was a little bit of extra space when I was in Nagri packing the stuff for this journey so that I bought two packs of cereals. It tasted disgusting, probably there was too much alkali in the water. I threw away half of it. Later I realised that probably I subconsciously felt that the provisions was so heavy. I would rather make it lighter at any cost.Dry all my stuff in the morning sun, a routine matterA faint dusk in Pur CoThe river bank pushed up by ice and opened like zipper by gustsThe pushed up surface of the iceThe place where I got my drinking water, a thin layer of ice behind the ablation corns The moment just before sun set, glittering Pur Co, nothing was the same差点儿没找到俺自己的帖子，原来变色了。多谢各位鼓励。 Day 10 (April 29), 16km, Camping 5141mIn the morning, I walked around the north bank of the Pur Co， where it were continuous ups and downs sprinkled with light yellow sprouts across the sparse grassland. The wild yaks clustered into small groups. All of a sudden, there was a group of five of them running towards me, blowing a huge cloud of dust with the power of thunderbolts,I believed that anyone who did not know the characters of the wild yaks must be frightened to death under such circumstances. The fact was the wild yaks in groups never injured people. Rushing to you just to show you its territory. When they approached people at certain distance, they would turn sharply and run away, and then stopped somewhere high to stare at you. You can not imagine that the wild yaks were very cautious animals compared with its almost one ton of weight. Their first reaction, when meeting people, was to raise their tails, the front hooves rubbing against the ground, the horns pointing forward, the eyes redden, and the long body hair shaking, all of which showed their determination to fight.This was the warning sign that you should retreat. However, you should realise that this was only a gesture that they were afraid of you and wanted to scare you away. The thing was that if you were not afraid of them and moved forward, they would run away in no time. There were only some mad yaks attacking people, which was really rare to happen. In Chang Tang, an experienced driver know that it is very dangerous to pass directly from two or three lonely wild yaks. They always tried to avoid confronting them directly. If this was not possible, they would lit a cigarette, smoking, to wait until the yaks walked away themselves. This was because the wild yaks really could attack vehicles, which was not completely rumors. I once asked them why I had not been attacked. They told me that because my bike was so small they would not be bothered to attack it. My own experience was that approaching a wild yak very slowly, do not look into its eyes, and ignored what it was doing. As long as it moved forward a little bit, just stop and give the yaks a little bit of time to think. Because if you forced the yak, it could be themost dangerous animal in the world and nothing could stop them killing. Even a gunshot could not kill it but only left a small hole in its skin. In the past, the nomads living near this land would use yaks' skin as chopping board which was very much endurable. At noon, I lost my balacLAVA, which was brand new and I had never used it once. I could not be bothered to go back tofind it. This resulted in that I had to have my fleece hat day and night in the rest of my journey, which did not provide fully protection from the sun in the plateau. But somehow I was all right, perhaps because my skin is similar to those of yaks, lol. At around half past one, I found a deserted Jeep, upside down. I felt it could be there for years and it could be the vehicle of someillegal HUNTERs. Nowadays, we have wildlife conservation reserves in Chang Tang and the animals here are well protected. However, some people kills the wild yaks to sell them as the domestic yak's meat. In general, it is worth 10,000 Chinese yuans for a single wild yak. Therefore many people take the risk to make money. They often enter the unpopulated areas to hunt and their activities can reach 200 km in diameter. This is why the wild yaks in the deep wilderness are less afraid of people than thoseat the boundaries of the Chang Tang region.There once happened that a wild yak mother revenged its baby's murder in the Altun mountains. Its horns pierced the killer's chest and held his body over its head for more than ten days, which was very touching.Around 3pm, I walked out of the Pur basin. The next point was Hong Shan Daban and then it was the Yueya Hu by the Toze Gangri. At this time I found a vehicle track from south to north. I checked over but could not find the way where they had gone. I took my map, GPS, and compass, climbing up a small hill to estimate the location of Hong Shan Daban. The mountain was very round and it was hard to find the mountain pass. After determining the location of the Daban, I moved straightforward. When I passed a messy grassland, I saw something that I was reluctant to see more than hundreds of wild yaks' head scattered all over, which was definitely the scene of the illegal hunting. After that it was a very long ancient river bed with soft sand slowly rising until the foot of the mountain.There are some spines on the surface of the tongues of wild yaks, which are used by nomads in this area as combs. They use them from their teens to the time when their hair becomes silver.The deserted Jeep, could be left by illegal hunters years agoThe slaughtered wild yaks with the wheel size heads. Some of the skulls were chopped into half. Why was that? Could be taken away for making combs?My camp at the foot of the Daban underthe lingering golden rays of the setting sun. Tomorrow's weather must be wonderful, I reckoned Day 11(April 30)， 20.4km, Camping 5120mThe surface of the road leading to Hong Shan Daban was very hard, most of them were small rocks, sort of gravels, plus a quite long downhill slope, I pushed my bike more than 20km for the first time after Luxing Hu. The mountain pass was quite flat, just like a broad ridge, it was 5256m above the sea level. Upon arriving at the pass, Toze Gangri of 6356m was in my sight clearly, very much round and there was no back bone like normal snow covered mountains. Most of the snow mountains in Chang Tang looked like this probably it was due to the geological movements. There were quite a few chirus or Tibetan antelopes in the valley but I was not interested in this kind of animals anymore after I witnessed a large scale of migration of such animals last year elsewhere.The herbivorous animals here are very quick to reach its original size of the population, such as wild yaks, chirus, Tibetan gazelle, pika, and marmot. When you go into the depths of the Chang Tang, you could hardly be surpised by the sudden appearance of the chirus because they are so common in here. At this time of year, the chirus have already male-female parted. You could see many pregnant female chirus but hardly see any males. According to recent research, Zonag Co is not the only lake for breeding. There are at least four of them in the whole Chang Tang. Zonag Co, Tuzi Hu, Heishi Beihu, and another lake I can not remember. I think there must be more than four of them and most of the populations do not migrant long way like most people used to think. They generally migrant from south to north between Central Mountains and Kunlun Mountains.The chirus looks very timid but are very curious about outside world. They are not really afraid of people, particularly in the depth of the Chang Tang. The nearest distance we can approach is about 30m. They just stare at you calmly and think who you are and why you move so slow. They would run in front of you. Look like they are afraid of you but the fact is they are playing with you. A man's own character shapes his fortune. This is of course suit for animals too. The chirus are the typical one. They have a super speed and a pair of sharp antlers. If they are crazy, three of them work together could easily kill a wolf. But as you might have known, their antlers are just for fighting to mate with females.Down the Daban there was a very steep and straight road, I tried to ride the bicycle but ended up with falling over. The front rack came loose and one of the pannier flew into valley. The foot of the mountain was the Yueya Hu covered by ice, which was alake full of heavy metal elements. Along the lake bank there were many stark rocks very much weathered, lining up just like castles or houses. This made me stop to investigate what they were from time to time, I did understand they were just rocks though but they were so real like the figures of real people. On of them even made me hide in a ditch, observing them again and again using my binoculars. There were also many black volcanic rocks. All in all, the features of this area were really unusual.Passed over the Yueya Hu, it was an endless ancient lake bed. What my GPS showed was this area was a big lake like tentacles. I looked around, it was endless wilderness without a piece of ice and a drop of water. Roughly, I estimated this lake bed was about 1200 square meters. I had to tell you that Chang Tang was a place where there was no high-resolution map. The marks in the map often were some kind of memory. Just like this ancient lake bed under my feet, may be it was full of water a few years ago. Who knows. Pushing the bike in such an endless lake bed was very easy to get lost. My mind was in a chaotic status too.The migration of the animals, photo taken last year The road rising up to the Daban, full of gravels, very hard, ideal for pushing your bikeThe Yueya Hu gazed at by the round and smooth Toze Gangri. At a glimpse, could you tell which was mountain, which was cloud?Ancient lake bed. The white stains were the alkali, look like ice. About wildlife (part 1)Declaration Personal experience for reference onlyDangerous wild animals and their threats to human beings are a ever-LASTING subject for those backpackers travelling in the wild.In Chang Tang, for example, there are two kinds of deadly animals, one is wolves and the other is brawn bears. As substitutes, wild yaks and crows might be dangerous to you in some circumstances that I will come back to this a little bit later on. As for how to protect yourself against these dangerous animals, I think the primary point is you do not try to hurt them because the emotions of human and animals are same instinctively. [Wolves]Throughout my journey, I met wolves a total of seven times, in which I confronted them five times. As you might have known that wolves have become more and more solitary animals, it is very rare they live in a large group nowadays. Please allow me off the point a little bit and talk about the ecological problems in Chang Tang. The problem is now not the decrease of the number of the chirus but the imbalance of the whole food chain, more specifically, the number of the animals on the higher trophic levels of the food chain has not yet reached its ideal level which results in this kind of imbalance. Particularly, the pikas and the marmots who have lost their predators rapidly expanse which results in the desertification of Chang Tang. As early as the middle of last century, wolves were the dominant predators in the vast wilderness. They became a threat not only to other preys but also nomads pasturing in this land. Therefore, the then government called on people to cull back the population of the wolves in Chang Tang, which resulted in the current situation directly. The last official record about wolves attacking humans was around 1970s, which happened in Bamaoqiongzong. A team of secientists was surrounded by a group of wolves and they had to shoot them using guns. Of course, at present in Chang Tang, wolves are absolutely lonely.In this traverse, the first time I encountered a pair of wolves, one of them staying in front of me pretending to attack me while the other staying behind me. This is the standard attacking strategy of wolves. First, you should not be nervous which can be easily detected by the predators. Second, you should not retreat even an inch because this means you are the prey rather than the predator. Do not make any large movement, of course you could take a picture if you feel safe to do so. You must look into its eyes for a few minutes or even half an hour. When the wolves can not work out who you are and consider you are not posing any danger to them, then they will leave. You should remember that wolves in this land do not lack of food and it is much easy for them to catch a pika than a human. Even if being hungry, they would evaluate how easy to get you done, What you need to do is to show them that you are not interested in them and you are not afraid of them at all, let alone to show your ID card to them. As for the wolves family, really, I have not heard for ages. If you really have an encounter with them and they have no other choice, then it definitely depends on your forture. In fact, for so many year, it has been very rare to happen that wolves kill human. But the rumours are still there, in particular, the road connecting Xinjiang and Tibet.The nearest encounter with a wolf throughout my journey, no conflict at all[Brown Bears]Brown bears are real dangerous animals to human. Every year there are some accidents happened in some regions of Xinjiang on the north side of Kunkun Mountains and steppes in Northern Tibet. More than that the bears could attack your house, smash your windows, and eat your sheep. Therefore, in Northern Tibet some local councils give subsidies to the pastorarists for compensating the losses due to the bears because they are not allow to fight back and kill the bears except their lives are in great danger. Once there was a nomad taught me a method to protect yourself from bears. He told me to pick up a stick to feed the bear and the bear thinks the stick is your hand which tastes disgusting. So the bear would leave. It was so funny but the reality is to find a stick in this vast wilderness is just like you win the lottery.Bears are omonivorous animal who are generally not interested in human flesh. You can find that in most of accidents, the bears did not eat any of the human flesh rather they just smashed them for kind of fun that we could not understand. For the reason why bears kill human, one explanation is the conflict between human and wildlife in this extreme ecological environment. The nomads invade the habitats of the bears, which results in these conflicts. On the other hand, it might be because bears have quite high IQ so that they think it is much easy to kill a sheep in the cote rather than to kill a pika in the wild.I have met bears five times in my traverse, in two cases we were very close to each other. I had even walked with one of them for quite a while, just like we had a date for a walk. The fact is it is not that terrible like you might imagine. The same rules for dealing with wolves apply to bears. Never provoke dangerous animals. A bear can run at a speed of 40km/h, do you think you can compete this in a highland 5,000m above sea level?However, there is a situation where it is really dangerous, that is the encounter. It is not easy to control your instinctive reaction to the external dangers. Last year once I turned around a hill, there was a bear just in front of me. The bear of course was frightened by me with its front legs holding up, waving in the air and roaring. At that time I sat on the ground, ignoring it. The bear then left in a few minutes. Chang Tang is a vast land so that this is not that easy to happen. But if it does happen, really only God can bless you.The nearest encounter with a bear throughout my journey. This bear disappeared in a herd of wild yaks, which I had tried hard to spot, really weird About wildlife (part 2)Declaration personal experience for reference only.[Wild Yaks]I have talked about quite a few, like in the post of Day10. I will no longer talk about it.This was the funniest encounter with a solitary wild yak, who did not warn me. If I sat down, it sat down too. If I moved forward, it stopped. Could not imagine what it was thinking about.[Crows]Crows are dangerous only when you fall unconscious in the wilderness. Of course they will be the first to taste your flesh in that case. Unlike their cousinsliving in urban areas, the crows in Chang Tang have a larger body like eagles. When they fly over your head, you could feel like it is a piece of cloud. They are scavengers but like fresh meat too. It once happened that a baby was killed by crows relentlessly, let alone the lambs got killed by them. Once a nomad asked me for fireworks to scare the crows away. (They are sacred birds not to be killed by human)It is easy to defend yourself against crows, that is to keep fighting, never fall in the wilderness.A short break attracted the crows. Of course, they were miscalculating this time, photo taken last year[Strategies Adopted]At the time when I met the four soldiers in Jieshan Daban, they said there were many dangerous animals in the Northern Tibet and asked me if I had brought a shotgun. I think if they knew that I would enter Chang Tang they would definitely check if I really have a shotgun. The so-called defence facilities I brought with me were the fireworks and pepper spray. I had never used them. The fireworks were ruined and thrown away when I crossed a river and I had never opened the pepper spray. I even had never thought about this when camping in the night. The reason was I did not feel the needs. During the day time whenever I met any animals I had never touched the knife I had brought. I did not have anything to defend myself when I walked out to investigate the route. The Chang Tang is really a vast area so as to be very easy to detect anything strange.By the way, you'd better to avoid mating season's animals because even tamed rabbits could be aggressive in mating season.The thing is even if you have a gun, it is not very much helpful when bears attack you. Therefore, your attitude is most important.I can tell you something. Dogs are more dangerous than these wild animals. I had been chased by Tibetan dogs, pounced on by dogs in mating season, also besieged by a group of dogs. I really feel it is more useful to know how to defend a dog.Declaration again The above experience is from Chang Tang only. Of course, the more you prepared, the better. Day 12 (May 1), 23.8km, Camping 5117mToday was May 1 -- the Labour Day, I had been walking in some lake area marked in the map but clearly dried up. The lake basin was flat and hard so that I even pushed my bike more than 20km. Let it be the special treat for my May Day. After midday it became cloudy with growing winds. Since the Yueya Hu that I passed yesterday, there were no big lakes until Yanghu Co (My route would be between Jianshui Hu and Bairab Co), there was even no light alkaline water to drink so I had to pay extra attention not to miss any possible drinking water supply to fill up my water bag. There were a few very small lakes but all were alkaline puddles which was very shallow, whose depth was no more than the length of a half-finger. These puddles were covered with a hard shell of the mixture of salt and ice which smelled stinking and decaying when getting closer, must be toxic water I supposed. On the shore of this type of small lakes it was muddy soil and very hard to get closer.There was no sign of tundra at all.It was almost half past six when I found some snow corns in a ditch, which was the only drinking water supply of the day. There was a thin layer of melted ice on the surface of the ground near the snow corn, which was very hard to collect and was contaminated by the alkali. The snow corn was the yet melted thick snow, which was shaped like a corn by wind. The snow was quite hard and dry,porous like ice. I crushed a few snow corns, putting them into the water bag.They would be my drinking water tonight. These snow corns were the only one in today's wilderness, I reckoned the reason why they were not melted like others was the soil underneath contained large amount of ice blocks which acted as a freezer.Very strong gale in the night, it was hard to bear the sound of the vibration of the tent. Small single tent was good in the sense that it would not be blown away as long as you stayed inside. But you had to be very careful to set up the tent. I once did not pay much attention when doing so, the tent was blown away by winds, and rolling over like a Giant lantern ... I ran after it, got it back, and was exhausted. In general, it is not possible to fix the tent completely using tent pegs because they were not very much effective like large tents. It was snowing around 23 o'clock, the winds were howling from north,then the falling snow flakes landed on my tent quietly, I finally felt at peace and fell asleep. The flat ancient lake basin, assisting me walking more than 20kmSmall lake en route, toxic waterSnow corns, the only drinking water supply today Day 13 (May 2), 0km, Camping 5117mWaking up in the morning and opening the tent, the heavy snow outside must be sent by the God to force me have a break for the May Day. After lying in for a while, getting up and walking on the snowy ground out I went to have a look around. As first sight there were a herd of chirus. They were plainly to be spotted because they looked like a clear black straight line in the while snow. I returned to get my camera and then followed them to take some pictures. But they were very much alert and kept a quite long distance from me. I felt they were a group of pregnant females, instinctively protecting themselves from any potential harm. I was no longer short of water, the snow gave me a precious supply of drinking water. The problem was that they were very petrol consuming. I tool 8.6 litre of petrol and the oil stove was Duola's MSR. The pot was of 1.5 litre, mainly for boiling water. After several days' experiments, I found that the liquid water needed 16mins and 14-15mins to boil in the morning and evening, respectively. For ice, it would take 35-40mins while for snow it took 45-50mins. Melting snow was a very time and petrol consuming process so if I had a choice between snow and light alkaline water, most of time I would go with the latter. Lying inside the tent, listening to musics,I smoked a cigarette while gazing at the more and more chirus around me. Because it was very cold I had been wearing my shoes all the time. Now I just put my bare feet under the warm sun for some fresh air. I found three cuts in my hands and one in my sole. The cuts were about 4cm in length, looked terrible but it was actually all right really. Half of my toes were injured by to much walking, quite painful. I fetched my medicine bag and found I only got four patches of plasters, a serious mistake. One of the cuts in my hand had never been cured until I was out of this desolate land so as to feel like this finger would drop from my hand at any time. The others quickly recovered in a few days then new cuts appeared elsewhere. This process occurred periodically. I felt that it was somewhat related to the cold, dry weather and the lack of vitamins. The snow rapidly disappeared, which is unique phenomenon in Chang Tang. Because of the low air humidity and the high radiation from the sun, the snow was evaporating very fast, much quicker than the melting speed. Owing to this, the ground was generally still dry after the snow disappeared. In most cases, it would be only 2/5 left in the afternoon around 2 to 3 o'clock and small patches of ground could be seen. It would be completely all right for walking the next day. On the third day there could be some snow left in somewhere the sunlight hard to reach. So generally it could give you three days of water supply after a heavy snow like this. One of the pannier was broken, the most expensive one from deuter series, supposed to be waterproof. I will come back to it at some point later. Everything was covered by snow, no way out Lying in the middle of Chang Tang, listening to Tian Zhen's songs, and smoking Baisha cigarettes, what else can you ask for? The pregnant female chirus in migration, probably heading to Heishi Beihu to give bi
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吴孟花夏天（6月28日至8月26日），和朋友一起游历了巴基斯坦北部地区，并完成了喀喇昆仑山区K2大本营，以及snowlake两条经典徒步线路。旅程之奇幻，遭遇之惊险，徒步之艰辛，在我本人的旅程经历中前所未有，特此为记。 预先说明的是，这是个纯粹的户外帖，帖子里没有艳遇激情之类的八卦，也不会有0元穷游的嘘头。这里要讲述的，只是两个傻乎乎的老男人，不远千里结伴去喀喇昆仑，看雪山走冰川的艰苦故事。如果你和我们一样，喜欢徒步，喜欢看雪山美景，那么请相信，这个帖子的6.5万字、1500张照片和23段视频，一定不会让你失望。 （在巴基斯坦北部山区的行程示意图：其中红线是坐车走过的公路；蓝线是徒步线路上需要坐车的路段；黄线是K2大本营徒步线路；粉线是snowlake徒步线路。） 先大致列出行程表：6月28日－7月3日：北京出发，经银川、乌鲁木齐，抵达喀什与队友会合，7月3日到达塔什库尔干县；7月4日－7月15日：此次行程的第一部分，游历巴基斯坦北部山区：7月4日从塔什库尔干县经红其拉甫口岸出境，抵达巴基斯坦境内的边境口岸小镇sost，再往南经过堰塞湖，游览美丽的hunza，而后抵达北部地区首府Gilgit市；7月7日至10日，从Gilgit出发，往西抵达shandur pass山都垭口，观看著名的山都马球赛，期间很不幸遭遇球场骚乱，仓惶逃窜；7月11日至15日，到达徒步的起点城镇skardu，与徒步向导sharif会面，办理徒步许可证，游览skardu周边，并参观了当地什叶派穆斯林的阿舒拉节游行活动。 7月16日－27日：此次行程的第二部分，用时12天，完成徒步K2BC线路，抵达K2大本营并遇到了杨春风、饶剑峰、张京川在准备攀登K2，张梁、王静在攀登布洛阿特峰；而后艰难翻越了Gondogorola垭口，经hushey回到skardu。 7月28日－8月2日：休整，并往返gilgit办理证延期，未办理成功，返回skardu；8月3日－11日：此次行程的第三部分，用时9天，完成徒步snowlake线路，其间穿越了两条长度均在60公里左右的大冰川，抵达hunza。 8月12日－23日：此次行程的第四部分，从hunza出发，一路往南抵达巴基斯坦首都伊斯兰堡，办理证延期，并游览伊斯兰堡和古城拉合尔。8月24日－26日：伊斯兰堡经乌鲁木齐，飞回北京。 本帖各部分导读：第一部分：游历巴基斯坦北部：陌生的朋友：https//bbs.8264.com/thread-1430744-2-1.html第二部分：K2BC徒步：冰河世纪：https//bbs.8264.com/thread-1430744-26-1.html第三部分：snowlake徒步：喀喇昆仑密境：https//bbs.8264.com/thread-1430744-58-1.html第四部分：伊斯兰堡－拉合尔：迷失的国度：https//bbs.8264.com/thread-1430744-90-1.html尾声：夏夜晚风：https//bbs.8264.com/thread-1430744-106-1.html 在开始我们的旅程故事之前，先隆重推荐我们这次徒步的向导sharif。sharif是徒步起点城镇skardu当地人，今年36了，有一个儿子和女儿，年纪都很小。sharif家族三代都是登山和徒步向导，家传渊源，他对当地喀喇昆仑山区可谓了如指掌，非常熟悉。sharif为人友善，脾气很好，他组织的徒步服务团队成员，都是来自他家同一个村庄，在团队管理上没有什么问或矛盾，成员很友善乐观而且团结，还能有效控制成本。去年他接待了几拨中国游客，今年又接待了好几拨。由于政治原因，近几年来自西方的游客大幅减少，sharif也希望能迅速吸引更多中国游客，这次徒步过程中，他很认真地向我们学习中文，还有计划去伊斯兰堡学习中文，为将来更好地服务中国游客做准备。（sharif和他的儿子卡玛尔） 另外，还要介绍一下sharif的叔叔ali，我们都管他叫阿里叔叔。阿里叔叔是个很有意思的人，整天乐呵呵的很喜欢开玩笑，很好相处，在当地也是很有名的登山和徒步向导，LP上都有对他的推荐。阿里叔叔体力很好，带队经验丰富，经常和sharif一起带队。如果由他带队徒步，也是很愉快的事情。（阿里叔叔和卡玛尔） 此次行程相关注意事项：（注意事项比较多，如果不打算去徒步，可以跳过不看）1、证：按照巴基斯坦使馆网站的说法，为中国公民提供免费证，但是你需要提交一大堆材料，比较麻烦，而且证官还有可能挑刺，说白了，和证代理串通起来赚钱。如果你有耐心和时间，可以尝试和证官直接打交道（据说北京大使馆办理比较正规）。想省事，可以找证代理（淘宝上就可找到），只要提交护照和照片即可，其它任何材料都不用准备，价格大概在1000－1200左右，可以办理一个月的商务证或旅行证。需要说明的是，如果你觉得一个月旅行时间足够，那就办理一个月即可；如果不够，则和证代理沟通，争取办理两个月或3个月的。去年据说在巴基斯坦北部城市gilgit或skardu，都可以办理证延期，但是今年的政策发生了变化，skardu不能再办理证延期，gilgit也只办理旅行证的延期，最多给你延15天，而且审批很严格；商务证延期则必须到伊斯兰堡办理，要和各种官僚机构打交道，很麻烦。2、徒步季节：尼泊尔境内的喜马拉雅山区，最佳徒步时间是10月份、11月份和4月份，但是喀喇昆仑山区则完全不一样。这里的登山季节是7月份，徒步的最佳季节就是7－9月份，其它月份天气较差，要翻越垭口很困难。即便如此，在7－9月份徒步，遇到恶劣天气的可能性仍比较大。我们徒步这两条线路，都遇到了雨雪天气。据当地的向导说，今年7月份有5支队伍徒步snowlake线路，因天气原因，只有一支队伍成功翻越垭口完成了全程徒步，其它四支队伍都不得不半途而返。3、往返行程：从国内去喀喇昆仑山区徒步，可以选择飞到伊斯兰堡，再坐大巴过去，但是往返机票比较贵。如果走陆路，可以先到喀什，然后经塔什库尔干县，从红其拉甫口岸出境。喀什和塔县都有去巴基斯坦的国际大巴，到巴基斯坦境内的sost口岸。这样费用能节省很多，还可以顺便游览慕士塔格峰及巴基斯坦北部山区风光，就是时间比较长一点，我们就是这么走的。需要注意的是，塔县的海关联检，可能会查你的红皮书和黄皮书，就是《国际旅行健康检查证明书》和《疫苗接种或预防措施国际证书》，需要在你所在地区的出入境检验检疫部门办理。这两本证明，如果没有，据说和检查人员说好话，也能过去。但是以防万一，我们出发前，还是办理了黄皮书（《疫苗接种或预防措施国际证书》），花了两百元。红皮书办理费用要五百元，我们想省钱，没有办理。在过海关时，检查人员问了几句，查看了一下黄皮书，也就放我们过去了。回程也可以原路返回，但是新疆在暑期也是旅游旺季，最好提前预订从喀什返回的机票或车票，能省不少钱。同时尽量避开6月底和8月底的时段，这是大学放假和开学的高峰期，也是游客进出新疆的高峰期，车票和机票都比较紧张。从伊斯兰堡飞回乌鲁木齐，只有南航的航班，如果是在网上预订的电子机票，记得要提前去南航在伊斯兰堡的办事处打印一张机票确认单，凭这张单据才能进机场办理登机手续。 4、保险：出发前我通过磨坊网站，花几百元购买了美亚保险的“乐悠游”海外旅行保障计划，共包含12项保险项目。记得把电子保单出发前交给家人，并记下保单号码，一旦有事，可以用得着。5、徒步许可证：徒步K2BC需要办理许可证，可以提前联系向导办理。如果到skardu之后办理，需要3天时间（要传真到伊斯兰堡办理）。我们就是到了skardu之后办理的，3天时间顺便游览了skardu周边。snowlake线路是开放区域，不需要办理徒步许可证。6、交通：巴基斯坦北部地区的交通主要是汽车，由于路况不好，中巴车（minibus）比较多，车内很挤，包括司机旁边，共有5排座位，每排坐4个人，坐进去之后基本就动弹不得，有时车尾和车顶还外挂几个人。从gilgit到skardu，我们坐过好几家公司的minibus，只有一次我们坐NATCO公司的中巴，是每排3个人，算是很好的条件了。从gilgit到伊斯兰堡，有带空调的豪华大巴，票价2100卢比，坐17个小时左右。徒步的开始路段需要坐车，一般安排的则是老式的越野车，在后面帖子里可以看到。7、风俗：巴基斯坦是伊斯兰国家，特别是北部山区，相对还是比较保守。注意尊重当地的风俗习惯，没有经过允许，不要给当地的女性拍照，更不要触碰当地女性。坐车时一般前排是女士专区。和人握手和给人端食物，要用右手。女士去当地旅行，最好穿长袖衣服和长裙长裤，不要露出胳膊和腿部。8、旅行风险：巴基斯坦对中国人相当友好，北部山区更是如此，只要说是中国人，一般都会受到热情相待，女士更加会有优待。喀喇昆仑山区总体而言还是比较安全的，唯一需要注意的是，从gilgit往南去伊斯兰堡的路上，会经过chilas地区，这一地区的部族据说和塔利班有联系，属于比较危险的地区。8月14日晚上我们从gilgit去伊斯兰堡坐大巴经过这一地区时，大巴车都是几辆结伴而行，司机告诫我们不要下车。第二天，也就是8月15日晚，这一地区就发生了恐怖袭击，三个武装分子拦住一辆巴士，枪杀了25个人，引发了skardu市的大规模游行抗议。这次恐怖袭击也直接影响到我们的回程计划。9、通信：在巴基斯坦旅行，可以买一张当地的电话卡，打当地电话和国内电话都比较便宜，一般买中移动在巴基斯坦子公司zong公司的卡比较多，但是充值时会扣掉将近20％的税费。徒步路段上是没有手机信号的，不妨把手机关掉或调到离线模式。我的队友用的iphone，徒步过程中关机，只在拍摄视频时才开机，比较省电。 10、食品：徒步线路上是没有补给的，所有食物从skardu出发时都要准备好，但又不可能带过多的量，所以最好出发前在准备物资时，和向导做好沟通，尽量照顾队员的口味、喜欢的食物类别。我们走k2BC时，由于事先没有沟通好，厨师在路上就做了很多的charpati面饼给我们吃，我的队友，来自山东的海洋同学吃得非常开心，而我这个南方人就简直痛不欲生。后来走snowlake时，厨师就相应对食物做了调整，增加了炒饭、面条、蔬菜水果的数量。另外，还可以从国内多带一点下饭菜、香辣牛肉酱、巧克力、牛肉干、压缩饼干之类，注意不要带含猪肉的食品。11、小费：向导会对徒步线路有一个报价，人越多，每个队员支付的价格就越低，但是这个报价是不包含小费的。这次我和队友两个人走k2BC，小费准是：背夫走完全程，每人小费20美金左右；有的背夫是在翻垭口之前就半途返回，小费就是10美金左右；厨师的小费是50美金；厨师助理是25美金；向导的小费是150美金。这样算下来，总的小费费用相当于徒步价格的12－15%左右。snowlake线路的小费金额与K2BC基本相同。如果队员较多，相应支付给向导和厨师的小费总额也会增加，但平摊下来，每个队员支付的金额还是会有减少。所以去徒步的话，队员人数还是多一点比较划算，以4－8个人为宜，人太多了队伍也不好协调。12、充电：巴基斯坦电力供应不足，首都伊斯兰堡都会有计划停电。北部山区的几个主要站点，skardu有自己的水电站，停电算是比较少的，hunza则没有统一的电网供电，各个旅馆都是自己发电。因此注意，只要有电力供应，抓紧给手机相机电池充电。旅馆一般都会提供插座。徒步路上是没有地方可以充电的，相机备用电池一定要带足。我的宾得k-x单反，用的是5号电池，出发前在淘宝上买了充足的劲量5号锂电池，相当给力，4节电池能用一周时间。13、货币兑换：在北部山区几个大的站点，美金和人民币都可以兑换当地卢比，可以找旅馆老板询问兑换点。这次我们兑换，拿人民币直接兑换卢比，要比带美金兑换更划算。例如，我们在gilgit，一元人民币可以兑换15卢比，而一美金则只能兑换92卢比。在sost口岸兑换时汇率要低一点，到gilgit稍高。8月下旬我们返程时，卢比有贬值，伊斯兰堡当地的外币兑换点，一元人民币可以兑换到15.2卢比，美金则是94.5卢比，还是拿人民币直接兑换更划算。 14、装备：最后列一下这次徒步我的装备物品清单：鞋子：SCARPA barun徒步鞋1双，Teva凉鞋1双；背包：小鹰38背包1个，强氧摄影胸包1个，强氧水壶包1个，驮包一个；内衣：C3上衣2件，C1长袖1件，速干短袖T恤1件，红辣椒排汗长裤1件，内裤若干；保暖：防风抓绒1件，HW玉羌带帽羽绒服一件；外衣：Marmot driclime风衣1件，Pata带帽软壳一件；裤子：TNF速干裤、Columbia 两截式速干裤各1条；睡袋：MHW －15度睡袋1个，睡袋内胆一个；药品：感冒药，腹泻药，健胃药，创可贴，清凉油，云南白药喷剂，抗生素类药（头孢类）；其它：登山杖2支，护膝1对，抓绒帽1顶，防晒圆边帽1顶，头巾1条，手套2副（抓绒手套、劳保手套），太阳镜1副，徒步袜2－3双，雪套1副，头灯1个，手电1个，水壶1个，雨披1个，瑞士卡片军dao1个，手机＋充电器，剃须刀，洗嗽用具（速干毛巾、牙膏牙刷、小梳子），卫生纸，湿纸巾两包，防晒霜，润唇膏，小本子，笔，照片，证件，晾衣夹。相机：宾得K-X单反＋腾龙18－200镜头；5号锂电池若干；充电器＋充电电池；存储卡；相机清理工具。在这次带的装备中，最满意的是徒步鞋和睡袋。scarpa barun徒步鞋是我这次出门前新买的，相当给力，因时间紧张，没有经过磨合就直接上路了，经历了各种艰苦地形，全程给我相当好的保护。MHW睡袋是很早的款式了，又大又重，徒步过程中有几晚直接睡在冰川上，很冷，幸好带了这条大睡袋。徒步结束后我把睡袋送给了向导，他非常高兴。另外，驮包也很有用，经历了马驮人背，磨破了几个洞，很好地保护了我的背包和物品。还有晾衣夹，徒步途中，在帐篷上晾晒衣物和睡袋，很有用。另外记得带一副便宜的劳保手套，走K2BC翻垭口时需要拉着绳子上下，用得着。至于失误的地方，主要是防潮垫，由向导提供，比较简陋，睡在冰川上的时候很冷，所以最好从国内带一个充气垫过去，或者在skardu再自己多买一个搓板垫。另外，药品不妨多带一点，除了队员，背夫们可能也需要一些药品。这次我走K2BC比较衰，12天全程生病，国内带过去的药全吃完了。走snowlake时买了巴基斯坦产的药，结果基本又没有吃。 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接下来就是万里同学，他说，首先，蔚蓝是我们的总领队，大家有什么事，要听从安排。其次，高海拔徒步，可能每个人高反情况不同，走到哪儿算哪，我们是出来玩的。当时听了那话，我第一感觉就是我们五个人的小队，什么总领队！未必还要整一排的副领队什么的。还有我们是重装穿越，什么走哪就算哪，那我们还做计划干嘛，还重装干嘛！在我眼里，重装就意味着能吃苦，想吃苦，以苦为乐，起码那个几天是。只是当时这些话没去说而已！当时就再次重复了没有领队这个说法，我们大家一起玩，只是前期攻略我在做而已，大家还是按投票做选择。万里听我那么说，又提了个：那大家就试下每个人轮流一天做领队，让大家体验下做领队的辛苦。我当时就没接那个话。心想，这个领队有什么权力嘛？一天到晚都在赶路看风景，有分歧了也是大家投票。而且让两个新人去做领队！完了我就回帐去睡了，我睡的是万里的帐，他们四个在远近的帐里接着海聊。这儿还有个小插曲，当时扎下帐时，我就和万里说，你要抽烟，尽量到外面抽，我不喜欢闻烟味。万里是把烟枪，他听了就跑远近帐去抽了，抽到多晚回来的？反正我早睡着了。到了行程的后面，远近一直策蔚蓝睡的帐，坐的车是不能抽烟的！说到我也觉得自己有点过分一样，把他从自己的帐篷里赶出去一样，其实我没赶哦！几个人无聊枯糙的走在沟中，一走就是两天，偶尔回头望望，就一直是这几个山峰垛那儿，听那个雪山派美女一直说说，后面最高的是什么田海子峰，是她的下一个目。我貌似没一点印象，哈哈，除了穿越贡嘎，我们道不同！ 传说中的虫草，可别只找到美女哦 小荷才露尖尖角，小贡嘎 阳光如此多娇，引无数白云竟折腰 从我们扎帐的地方出发十几分钟就到了格西草原 经过格西草原后不远，我们追上了前面的土狼哥俩，从这两队变一队，我们变成七人队。 还有从出发地就一起走过来的两位当地挖虫草的村民，一路和他们聊过来，他们也是认为现在过垭口，难。而且我们今天要赶到上日乌且，不可能。 17：30，我们终于到了下日乌且处的一处废弃的牛棚处，只剩下半围的一堆石头了。万里提议今天不走了，小许有点高反，头晕。其实这时候离天黑还有老长一段时间，我们对下日乌且也没有明确的地。攻略上称从下到上日乌且还需2个小时，如果这儿算下日乌且，我们今天完全可以按计划赶到的。我说，大家看看吧，如果今天扎帐在下日乌且，那明天我们翻垭口前的体力消耗将会很大，而且时间上对我们也挺不利，我们必须赶在中午时间翻垭口。而且前面是什么状况，垭口前垭口后是什么状况，我们没有人走过，所以尽量多留足点余地给自己。大家都比较纠结，土狼那边那个兄弟，体力也比较不乐观，因为体重的缘故，他上到高原喘得厉害，土狼给他从两岔河租个马到下日乌且，牧民就问他要了五百，其实攻略上这也就一个多钟的路程。但是这哥们精神很乐观，他随我们，我们走，他也走，我们扎，他们也扎。问关键还是回到我们这，我建议大家考虑后面的路情，尽量赶到上日乌且，但是万里提出不走了，而小谢和小许无条件的跟他的意见，远近无所谓，不发表意见，我随大家吧。只能如此！ 当夜因为有土狼他们带的腊肉，我们这边貌似都带的干粮，我带的鱼啊肉的都是那种超市买的包装的，对那种家用的有天然的亲近感，我很自然的就跑那边撑肉吃去了。小谢，小许和万里三个人在谢雨的帐篷那边弄饭吃，我们四个围在远近的帐篷里烧肉吃。今天晚上我都头痛有越来越厉害的趋势，让我想起EBC的几个观景点的苦痛，脑门两边使劲往脑袋中间挤，这样的头痛就是我的高反的典型代表。土狼的席梦思抬了一个放在帐篷里，我坐在里面，身体挺舒服，比他们任何一个都要舒服吧！但是头痛。土狼和他兄弟在折腾肉和面，我和远近就等吃就ok，玩户外这么长，似乎凡事都在亲力亲为，没享受过这种待遇一样，只是现在才反省过来的。外面慢慢的下起雪粒子，越来越大，后面又转成雨，尤其是晚上我回帐篷睡了，耳听着外面的雨转变成瓢泼大雨，担心扎在坡上的远近的A塔被水泡，防潮垫和睡袋全被水泡，那觉可真没法睡了，让万里大声叫应她，万一不行就大家挤好了，只是没有一点回声，雨的声音太大。 是夜，因为雨雪，因为有啤酒，因为有美女，我们四个好像聊了很多很多，聊到很晚了大家都不肯散一样。而关于明天关于贡嘎的，大家心头都沉着呢，估计不乐观，我们转回老榆林泡温泉算。 早上照例是小谢和万里最先起来，他们两个真的好精神，在外面转了一圈又一圈，我们还在睡着呢！我们都喜欢睡到太阳晒帐篷，睡袋，才有想爬出来的精神。 他们两个兜完了，来到帐篷前，外面昨晚下好厚的一层雪，估计垭口上，路上又平添一层。万里提议可能日乌且垭口过不了，改走盘盘山垭口，小谢也建议这样。我听了，认为这样不妥，第一我们没做盘盘山的攻略，第二，那边时间会比现在的路线多两天时间，我们的干粮和时间都不够。而且，从整队的行进速度的随心所欲，和昨晚恶劣的天气，我都只想下撤到老榆林泡着了。他们认为盘盘山应该只有一条路，而且刚好有一队重庆驴友走盘盘山，但是我认为盘盘山怎么可能只有一条路，哪座山都绝不止一条路，这个太冒险。而重庆队有租马，我们重装是没有办法跟得上的。如果大家不走日乌且，我就选择下撤，想走盘盘山的就跟万里走吧，但是我建议你们到两岔河租马，有马就有向导。当时三个人的小碰头就是这样了，结果就是他们两种选择，盘盘山和下撤，我的选择：日乌且和下撤。 等到大家都起来了，我提议大家都思考一下，我们下一步怎么弄。这时，万里同学很激动的说，他今天上午哪里都不去了，挖虫草去！顺便休整！我还未及吭声，平时不怎么表态的远近高兴地附和道，那我去你帐篷里睡觉去，昨晚一点都没睡好。小谢和小许一看，说那也挖虫草去，我说，你们要挖，要休息，你们呆着，我下撤！说完大家散了，万里和小许挖虫草去了，小谢去沟里拍照片。 1050分，蔚蓝，远近，和土狼兄弟两我们四个继续上路往日乌且垭口进发。至于事情结局为什么又发生了这么大的改变，请继续关注！ 一路向日乌且垭口，只是图片上的不是我们，而是挖虫草的村民，这时节去，家家户户都上山挖去了，要找个司机，向导之类的，可费老劲了。 在下日乌且，发生了最滑稽最重大的一幕，我们七个人的队伍分成两队，一队在原地挖虫草，一队继续向日乌且垭口进发，我们四个整装重新出发，将近夭折的贡嘎穿越走出最坚实的那步 就在这雪地里撒把野 上完长长地碎石坡，是一个小垭口，一路顺着小水沟向前，就到了路书上小豆他们扎帐的巨石旁了，此时，大雪纷飞，我们四个队形严谨。 再往前，就是日乌且沟的尽头，远处连绵的就是日乌且峰和----。 未到山前，我们就要从右侧的山坡上往上往前横切了，爬升正式开始 上垭口前的最后见证人，专职挖虫草，他介绍的和小豆路书上的差不多，垭口雪到了大腿，估计很难过，建议不要去了。看我们那么坚决，告诉我们翻过前面那个小雪坡，再到视线尽头那个大雪坡，后面就是垭口，大雪坡前都有他的脚印，让我们跟着走。到此，看来一切都对得上，我的心稍安定一点。 一路上坡横切，间或会是灌木丛，日乌且沟慢慢掉在了脚下，小贡嘎也慢慢成为了背影 我们需要穿越左侧的雪地，才能爬上左侧的小雪坡，所以小，是因为她后面的更大，我们走近她时，看不到头顶和脚下出路在何方！只有上面，还是上面。这时的天，和纷飞大雪似乎一点关系都没有 路，就在脚下。 我们就一直坐在这，傻傻的等。从1520一直到1700，等着土狼他们两个上来，其间甚至发生了几轮激烈地争执。远近的观点是大家是一个队，就要等齐了一起走，前面就是雪线了。我则坚持，土狼他朋友在下面沟里已经是疲惫不堪地跟，这回一上坡准没戏了，估计这一趟就是我们两个的事了，你要上，我们就上，你要不上了，我更不上了。远近还是坚持就算他们不上了，也该上来和我们说声。这道理俺懂，俺也知道，这个结果，七个人的队，只剩下我们两个上去，就算过不去，起码我们去试了，很难让自己心里接受！但是大好下午的一个多小时，不就是最好的证明！我们实在是不能再等下去了！要么下撤到沟底和他们一起下撤，要么就是往前，尽量往前，再找合适的地儿扎帐。只是拗不过她的殷殷期盼，我只有轻装回头去找土狼他们两个，回头近300—400m，是一处高台，在那几乎可以望到沟底，扫视，呼喊，毫无反应。就这样，她彻底绝望了，我们才重新上路。后来下山后和土狼联系上，确实是他朋友走不动了，决定放弃，下撤到沟底，我们的呼喊他们能够听到，只是他们的回应我们听不到，风大，逆风。 看上去，我们离沟底是多么多么的近，但是我们走上来，很辛苦，甚至和土狼他们连告别的话都没能说上 雪地上徒步，让我想起在Cho La Par，我最不擅长的就是这个，一会会的工夫，已是脚发软，不知是走雪地特费劲，还是心里鸭梨山大，而且这个小雪坡的雪已经比那个垭口的雪厚得多了。我是男人，当然得我来开路！ 雪坡上来了只是后面的还是雪坡。我们不知道后面等着的会是什么？更糟的是，挖虫草人的足迹慢慢地就没了，在白茫茫而刺眼的雪坡中我们迷失了方向，只记得往上，往上。 前面的坡太陡，我们已经折腾了一天，我们得省着点，选择横切，希望可以绕到垭口前 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张慈瑄说实话，不去墨脱想去感受一下；而进了墨脱却只有一条路选择：朝前走。其他的即使你再奢望那也是空想。你到那时候没有退路，任何想退却的愿望只能是想想而已。 说实话，进墨脱是对自己的挑战，尤其是你想自己背包进去的话，就更是一种挑战。对于几乎没时间锻炼的人士来说，要么别去要么请背夫，就这两个选择。 说实话，墨脱已经通路了，札墨公路从波密一直通到墨脱县城，还以为这里是中国最后一个没有通公路的县城的人们请更正这个想法。但路况是非常之差这是实话，我觉得是我走过的最难走的公路，可以上下左右把你颠个佩服，要是会晕车的也想清楚再去。 说实话，墨脱的景色是绝佳的，但却没有变化性，就是一派的原始雨林的感觉，走路4天依旧是差不多同样的景色，连路上做生意的四川人都疑惑说：“里面有什么好看的啊？” 说实话，去墨脱是对自己毅力的巨大挑战，你走了你会更平和会对工作和生活更有忍耐力，是自己人生的一个提高。 1.香格里拉 进多了藏区，就对藏区的建筑或是风景几乎都会产生很大的免疫力。路上小鱼就说中甸的草甸好像没有郎木寺那边的那么有气势，只是小小的一块，而不是像甘南的那样远远的都望不到边际。 从昆明做高快去中甸，从早上一直坐到了晚上，短短的13个小时，回想一下，在这次的旅途中真算是最好消磨的路程了。 到了中甸，联系了小草，阿飞和阿科，他们早我们到了几小时，在香格里拉青旅已经住下了。 当晚，几个人又对此次旅途进行了更深入的探讨和交流。但我们的领头人toby大哥还在路上，又只好等待了一夜。[ ]昆明到香格里拉的高快车好像每天只有1趟，从昆明西客运站发车，8点半发车，要13个小时才到香格里拉。香格里拉有两个青旅，一个在老城区一个在新城区，这次我们去的是新城区这个。此外还有非常有名的活佛之家等好几家老外喜欢的旅店。活佛专家竟然就在松寺旁边是大大出乎我的意料的。香格里拉青旅好像开的时间还不长，房间里面看起来都是新新的，但就是入住的人太少，不知道是位置的关系还是其他的什么原因。[ ]从中甸市区去云南最大的藏传佛教寺院松赞林寺倒是很方便，在路上看见市区走着的2路公交车上去就可以了，但你一定要打扮的很普通，不能让人知道你是来旅游的，否则司机师傅会在松寺的山门出叫你买票，35块呐，还是蛮多的一笔银子。在中甸也只有松寺可以去逛逛，其他的像的碧塔海之类的景区就看你是否喜欢了，我个人觉得倒是没有多大的意思。但是，松寺被叫做“小布达拉宫”，但看过布达拉宫你也就觉得这寺庙真是小得可怜了。格鲁派六大寺哪个都比松寺大好多倍，但对于云南最大的格鲁派寺庙这也很不容易了。去了松寺要看准时间，要是9点到11点才到寺庙里面，就几乎都是人了，你照相就只能看到人头，我和小鱼就一直先四处逛，逛到几乎没游客了才拿出相机来一通猛照。松赞林寺我个人认为这是松赞林寺里面最漂亮的小院[ ]松寺景色！[ ]其实早早的去松赞林寺只是和小鱼一起打发无聊的时间的，那么松寺的景色也就随便照了一些，但回来发现其实无论哪个景点只要用心去发现都会有绝佳的PP的，比如在松寺你就没有必要随着什么旅游团一起走，企图混听什么解说。这样你倒反被限制住了，再说这些佛像壁画无非是宗喀巴大师啊，贾珠杰，克珠杰，根敦珠巴之类的大师，外加什么吉祥四瑞啊，八宝之类的，听了过会也就忘记了，还是看看景色吧，比如从寺庙的正门右边去看白塔，虽然是一个小坡，但却也有好些景色去拍去看呢。寺庙殿堂的大锁，和内地的是有不同啊。松赞林寺里面游人比较喜欢的一面大大的墙。松寺周围的小村远处的到底是个什么地方，要是我能有这里的房子就太好了，美景啊。某个大殿里面的大大的酥油灯香格里拉城里面有个小小的不收门票的烈士陵园，有时间的话应该去看看，解放中甸时候牺牲的战士，有好多墓碑上连名字也没有，我们去的时候好几个老外也在里面慢慢的看，不知道他们到底能看懂多少？路上见到的的土陶罐子，要是不是走那么长的路真该带一个回家呢。其实还没有出墨脱，或者是出了墨脱在八一的时候，我们6人就一直在讨论要在8264上发个“宏大”的帖子。但是我们到底是以什么样的立场去发这帖子我们一直有争论。一种说是要去有意的多害一些“无畏”的人去墨脱，把他们累个够惨。一种说要帮助更多的人知道怎样来墨脱和怎样开心的走完墨脱。其实在八一我们的结论是前者，甚至我像陈科大哥一看到他已经裂口的噢若卡的鞋子一定会依旧坚持前者说些不着边际的话来害人。但我现在还是把我们这次一些不能称其为经验而是教训的东西告诉大家吧。首先：关于《边防通行证》的问：我们是奥运期间到的墨脱，应该是检查边防证最严的时候，但我们六人里面只有小草，toby和我在我们自己的户口所在地办了边防证，其它三人都没有。陈科大哥用护照通过了；阿飞用单位证明原件通过了；小鱼在墨脱县派出所传真了户口所在地的户口证明和单位证明也过来了；在背崩的边防检查站人家解放军也说了用户口所在地的无罪证明原件或者复印件或者传真件都可以。墨脱没有复印店和传真机，要弄只有在县派出所去弄传真，但人家有点不乐意，呵呵。阿飞的单位证明大意如下：xx是我公司员工，于xx时间到西藏旅游，请各单位协助其办理西藏各地边防证……小鱼本来在80K就因为没有边防证而险些过不来，一直磨到给县派出所所长打电话说尽好话才给在墨脱弄传真过来，在背崩时候墨脱还打电话给背崩的派出所说要密切注意这个没有边防证的游客，真是给她几乎吓得半死。但我认为，为了避免到时候的担心，还是在自己家办好边防证或者带着护照好一些，人家检查的看这两样东西时间都很短，也就是说是最被认可的东西。在拉萨办理要100块，我们在拉萨听有人花了那么高的价钱办下来了，各位自己想一想是否划得着，即使可以最后退几十块钱。最起码我和小草的边防证办的时候就拿着身份证一分钱也没有要就办下来了，toby大哥在上海还弄了单位证明。还是把边防证的问说清楚吧。的确：现在去深圳，珠海等地方是不要边防证了，这也就是小鱼没有办到边防证的原因，那里的派出所已经快十年没有见过这东西了。但只有西藏和新疆的某些边境县要边防证，新疆的哪几个县我没研究过，但西藏的一些县要边防证，这主要是因为我们中学学过的所谓“麦克马洪线”的问，印度侵占的大片领土就与这一些县的县城很近，比如墨脱和察隅。办理边防证首先是国家的安全需要吧。论坛上有过西藏哪些地方要边防证的帖子了，大家自己搜一下，但办理边防证的时候，我们昆明的规矩是只能写三个县在边防证上，人家说了，把你去的终点县的名字写上，路过的没必要写。比如去墨脱就写墨脱，去察隅就写察隅，去阿里看玛旁雍错就写普兰县，去看古格遗迹就写扎达县，一路上去新疆就写日土县。实在地点很多就多开几张边防证。说没见过边防证的看看我出行前ps的这张PP吧。在中甸的香格里拉青旅的日子是愉悦和轻松的，白天睡到太阳出来，晚上和刚到的toby大哥开始喝酒，我觉得只是简单的青稞酒泡了点梅子，为什么我们同行的两位女生都会一个劲的大喝特喝，最后两位美丽的女生全喝醉了，但据说小草老大上一天就已经喝醉过一次了，陈科大哥不得不忍气吞声（其实是心里很高兴的吧）把小草抱上房间，扔下给她睡，自己再下来偷偷的喝酒。香格里拉青旅的酒坛就放在电视房里面，又不上锁，应该可以常常来喝一点。^_^在青旅的一角，架子上全是国内青旅的名片，大概有四五十家吧，我慢慢的找，竟然找到了好友老康在保山青旅的名片，顿时觉得这世界好小啊。2年前他们去了墨脱，现在我也要去了，却在这里看到了2年来他奋斗的痕迹，有趣得很呢。[ ]在香格里拉逛着，发现竟然也有昆明的烧饵块，还有夹着蔬菜的烧饵块，原来竟然没吃过，看起来也很干净，用个小盘拿着涂酱，我倒是建议吃甜酱，外地人比较容易接受。[ ]从中甸到波密，据说是2天一夜，又是一段无奈的大客车旅行，这几年在外面瞎跑，把我锻炼得竟然不会晕车了也算一个奇迹，但我们这次去车站卖票的就说了要准备十张身份证复印件，路上都要检查。但看着这几天连续不断的雨水，我真怀疑滇藏线又要塌方（最后的路线大出我们的预料）。要是在路上耽误一两天，弄得前不着村后不着店的就麻烦死了。阿飞他们已经买好了票，从中甸去拉萨的车，每三天发车一次。这次的车实在坐的太多，养成了一个坏毛病，上厕所随便路边上去解决，在这个岔路口，欣赏完了漂亮的陶器，就在人家房子背后解决问，一路也几乎是这样：男的车子左边，女的车子右边。不记得是小鱼和小草照了个什么好东西，好像是谁向谁献了一棵大大的狗尾巴花吧，小鱼就偷拍成功。后面是我们的领头大哥：toby！！一路都是立马下车第一个冲进饭店后厨点菜，而我们其它5人基本属于：“坐等吃”的舒服类型。我们买的车票是车子的倒数第二和第三排卧铺的下铺，一路上给toby和小草郁闷的是最后一排几位大哥的脚臭，就像小草说的，闻过臭的，没闻过那么臭的。最经典的是阿飞带了花露水，上车就把我们的被子一个一个全喷了一遍，但坐到第一天晚上，toby实在忍受不住了，拿了阿飞的花露水到最后一排的床铺上全喷了个遍，大叫实在忍受不住了，一直把头转了180度才说好些。一车上，脚臭，抽烟不停……全是煎熬啊。只要有机会就下车透气，坐司机的引擎盖上面，又暖和风景又好，还可以和司机聊些当地的风土，比如哪里的藏民村子有钱之类的。诱惑得我们一行的女士们见到村子就问那里的村长结婚了没有，有几个儿子，家里有多少头牦牛……小草的运气就是好，开着窗子透气避免闻脚臭都会有知了飞进怀中。前面这张pp是可以看看我们的床铺后面是这张pp是倒霉的知了，最后第二天被谁给压死了，在过道看见它扁扁的尸体！唉！本来以为我们会走滇藏线过奔子栏－盐井－芒康，但谁料滇藏已经塌方的不可救药了，只好绕道四川进去。香格里拉－得荣－巴塘－芒康，完全就是一个大圈圈嘛！得荣吃饭时见到的羞涩的藏香猪只要一有相机对准就跑开或扭头，但一收相机就欢快异常我喜欢收藏的东西，看着就好值钱，左贡一个老太太手上的。[ ]我本以为只有滇藏线会有连绵的群山，但芒康－八宿－左贡一线尽是那富有变化的群山，完全值得高兴的是，这些山包形态各异，都有无数的变化性，让人看个不厌。而这里群山间流淌的溪水也富有柔情。看山，不一定要雄壮的那种，不然的话太过于给人有压迫感同样，看山也不一定只能看那种秀丽的，不然的花太过于给人有局限感这一路的山脉却刚刚好，有着葱绿的树木，也有着寸草不生的荒凉。有着绕山而转的溪流，也有着连绵不绝的云和雾。一样的风景，要是换个角度再换个人，是不是会有不同呢？小草抓住这只可怜的知了之后，总是说自己是知了的妈 L 于是乎，拿自己的围巾包住了知了，名曰避免知了因为高山环境而被冷到于是，我怀疑知了的实际死因！我们第一次被检查身份证是在XX县的边界上有个很帅的兵哥哥被小草看上了，于是，小草以超慢的速度靠近了拿着枪的兵哥哥，说道：“这枪，我能摸摸吗？”得到允许后，摸了又摸，直到兵哥哥烦了，直接把枪扔给她去摸个够。但眼睛一直看着小草的右手！陈科大哥乘机靠近。混上了这张宝贵的照片。这时候，小草问我，拿枪怎么拿啊？ L 左手拿着弹夹，右手欲拿扳机那里。这一问立马提醒了兵哥哥，以极快的速度抢过弹夹又才把枪扔给小草。这时候小鱼也慢慢凑上来，两位女士一个劲拉着兵哥哥要照相，人家无奈之下。。。[ ]羞涩的猪同样没有把正脸给小草但小草竟然说。。。。。。美女（左）与野兽 ;P道路漫漫我佩服骑车进藏的勇士这位老哥45了，从成都一个人骑来的。竟然不带睡袋，每天骑到差不多有人家就停下。而且不带锅和炉头。晚上才有热饭吃！巴塘镇路口检查的帅警察小草照他，而他竟然叫小草留下电话有空联系联系，呵呵从巴塘上来了一群藏族美女，据说是去山里面拣蘑菇的。^_^哈哈完全就是拣蘑菇小姑娘的现代版嘛小草和小鱼一个劲问人家村子的具体情况：村长几岁？有几个儿子？村长家牦牛有几头？把人家问了个高兴，分别把自己项链上的绿松石给了她们一人一颗。而这群姑娘几乎都叫“卓玛”，于是，小鱼给自己起名叫“金珠卓玛”而小草的卓玛太难记，于是，我们以后就把她叫做"玉盆卓玛"可爱的金珠卓玛脖子上就是刚得到的绿松石！（口水ing）本次班车的帅司机，只有26岁哦。[ 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袁馨仁KKKKKKKKKKK关于食物 装备总重在200斤左右，包含车子本身。其中食物总计100斤左右，分列如下。 主食：糌粑50斤（丢弃一斤），压缩饼干25斤。 辅食：大蒜4.5斤（腐烂半斤），酥油4斤，花生米4斤，盐2斤，麦片2斤（丢弃一斤），紫菜1.5斤，辣椒粉1.5斤，奶粉1斤，白糖1斤，茶叶1斤，巧克力0.5斤，虾皮0.5斤，调料包0.5斤。 食物以糌粑和压缩饼干为主，零食可忽略不计。在羌塘大体力环境下，每日摄取热量至少应在5000大卡，显然食物携带量要达到这一指是不可能的。上世纪早期以斯文赫定为代表的西方人首次触及这片神秘疆域，虽然他们带了大批活羊鸡什么的，但捕猎还是非常重要的补给手段，那时野生动物太多了，也没有现在的动物保护观念。能坚持就不要打动物的主意，再则一个人在没有机动装备情况下猎杀动物是非常难的，没有想的那么浪漫。言归正传，本次旅行每天摄取食物热量有如下四个阶段。 一、克制期，前45天里每天摄取热量在1400大卡左右，大致4两糌粑和2.5两压缩饼干，一些汤料为辅。摄取热量属于中度饥俄状态，下午四点以后基本就无力了。此阶段食物控制的极为严格，以至于45天里消耗的主食才30斤（另有三天意外补给，后文详述）。 二、提升期，由于前期食物控制非常成功，所以总行程过3/5，食物却消耗2/5，因此每日口粮提升至5两糌粑和3.75两压缩饼干。但仅一周后，食物就完全失控了。 三、失控期，从第52天开始，食物完全失控，原因既有生理上的需求，也有精神上的欲望，每天夜不能寐，脑海中总是一幅山珍海味的蜃景。控制力低下时，干吃糌粑粉都能吃掉半斤，如零食般。 四、超控期，第64天开始至74天遇人救助，每天食物热量摄取不足800大卡，少于身体基本代谢量。 从食物种类上可以看出，为了控制负重，食物以热量转换效率高的碳水化合物为主。零食基本没有，花生米都觉得不该带，因为后期会控制不住，花生米会被当做美食很快消耗掉。全程无肉，吃过一次蔬菜，微量元素靠金施尔康。没有动物脂肪的缺点是，抗寒力和身体耐力会下降，例如生活在北极圈的爱斯基摩人，不吃肉是没法长久活下去的。 水，始终是个大问，期间断水多次。后期虽雨季水多，河系泛滥，但水质多混杂不堪，时而无奈。纵观全程，饮用清洁地表水的天数约占20%，融雪和矿水（包括轻度盐碱水、泥沙水等）各占40%。可见若无雪则命不保，当然轻度盐碱水喝多了麻烦是非常大的， 我仔细查看了杨同志的关于食物的帖子，对吃的食物做了以下计算：前45天消耗糌粑18斤压缩饼干12.5斤，45-52天消耗糌粑3.5斤压缩饼干2.6斤，64-74天每天摄取800大卡《糌粑每千克热量为3390》合消耗2.4斤糌粑，那么第52-64天的食物应该是糌粑50-18-3.5-2.4=26.1斤和压缩饼干25-12.5-2.6=9.9斤，这一段时间每天的消耗为糌粑2.1斤和0.82斤压缩饼干，我没有吃过糌粑，不知道一个人一天能否吃得下？ 同时也请告知 穿越出来后体重下降多少好计算脂肪代谢产生的能量。 关于汽油的消耗：总共只带8.6升，平均每天仅有0.115升，93号汽油的热值是48MJ每KG，看那边水温不会高于10度，气压低沸点低些，化雪时消耗更多热量，有时还取暖，而且小杨同志有喝茶的习惯，这点汽油够每天用吗？ 注意看完第二页再回帖 关于托包问：看到小杨同志带了2个后驮包，2个前驮包，车把上也有一个包，后货架还有一个，我想知道这些包容积分别有多大，物品是怎样分装的，好让我仔细计算各种物品能否装进包里，虽然通过照片也基本上能判断各个包的体积，但有具体数据会更好。 另外从下面照片中可以看出车子有明显的不同，如三脚架下瓶子及捆绑绳不同，后货架绑带不同，多了把铲子，大撑不见了《帖子中得知是你拆的》等，容易让人怀疑是不是同一辆车。 关于轮胎问：看帖得知中途没有换过轮胎，可仔细对比前后期轮胎照片，感觉轮胎花纹有些不同，不知道是不是轮胎磨损造成的。如果轮胎花纹确实不同，而没有科学的解释，那么就说明很多问了，这一点非常重要。还有车和包有时很脏有时很干净，难道中途洗了几次装备吗？最后大家对比中图和上楼图中的前轮托架，看他们的构造是否相同，前车前托架有2根横梁连接到避震杆上，后车只有一根横梁连接，这真是同一辆车吗？本人才疏学浅，希望各学科的馿友从各自专业的角度参与分析，给小杨同志一个肯定。看到N多回复感觉不爽！大家的心理我都明白，假如有一天有人证实这次穿越掺了水分，你们又该做何感想！“逆流之河”77天穿越曾深深的震撼了我！同为“独行馿”很难想象他是怎么完成如此艰难的穿越，可如今留给我的是深深的失望，我相信你到了里面，而且不止一次进入，就算你带了后援，或者分几段完成穿越，你还是受人尊敬的，可你不该编出一个“独自77天穿越”的故事来骗大家，也许你有你的苦衷，也许是为了那该死的名利。。。。。。你欠大家一个道歉！勇敢的站出来吧！其实大家就是不愿意相信有假，多仔细看看后面那辆车确实跟前面不是同样的，明摆着的事！一味的崇拜！对我用最恶毒的语言也无法掩盖事实的真相！只能说明你们更可悲！ 又发现新证据，大家仔细看图中的防潮垫，数一数上面的凹凸花纹，这是2张不同的防潮垫！经再次查看，这个证据站不住脚，失误了。 很晚了！休息了昨晚失误了，今天继续找证据，真的假不了，假的真不了，不着急。 63天前货架是好的64天前货架是好的67天帖子中原文： 还是坚持着，推了三百多米，猛然把车一摞，骂了句，还真以为我是玩杂技的啊！然后回头去找拆散的车架。把车拼好，能拆的零件都拆掉，剩链条搞不掂，又回头找拆炼器，第一次用，兴奋，以为很精密很技术，很快捷的把链条拆了。这时又发现，后货架一侧断了，其实也没什么大不了的了。6MM钢筋，在螺丝间都加了橡胶垫片，避免硬连接的金属疲劳，极端的环境下还是不行。前货架也是用6MM钢筋焊接的，除了绣，一切都好，负重不多了，驮包置前，轻物置后，够用了。 今天，是自行车的崩溃之日，最具崩溃代表性的不是轮胎或钢货架，而是脚撑。很有故事，道来。因为去年羌塘之行深刻意识到拍照很辛苦，原因之一就是要把自行车放倒、再扶起，看似简单，却极耗体力精力，流失很多拍照机会。一般的单脚撑基本上瞬间弯，钢制的无法保持大负重的自行车平衡，所以特地寻了一款类似摩托车的双叉中架脚撑，试验很不错，可羌塘实际地貌是不适合的，地太软，脚撑难以平衡，所以一次未用，但又拆不下来，（由于其固定结构很顽固，又没带匹配大扳手，尝试无数次无用）。每每看着这脚撑，觉得委屈，两斤多重的无用货，早知换成备用鞋。也是在今天，奇迹发生，脚撑松动，两端螺丝用手就拎开了，终于卸了这负担。 晚上又失眠，除了想吃的流口水外，还想着脚撑的重量可以换些什么好吃的带。 原文第一段最后一句说前货架一切都好，第二段第一句说最具崩溃性的不是轮胎或货架，而是脚撑。下图已经明白证实前货架有一边中间梁没有了。现在可以肯定前左货架坏了吧！ 73天照片显示货架却是好的，怎么说法，难道带了电焊机吗？关于我的私人情况吗？以后大家就会明白我是个什么样的人，一些与我有过节的人故意断章取意趁机攻击我，我坦然面对。。。。。。我现在没有精力理那般小人。 去山里转了2天出来，没有上网，今天继续找证据，刚才从藏羚羊群的图片看出点端倪，可是帖子已经用文字把漏洞封了，在很多有漏洞的地方，帖子总能用文字修补。。。要找到更多的证据恐怕需要花更多的时间。不过通过搜索知道有很多科学考察队和其他人员进入过里面，相信会有解开谜底的那一天，我会继续努力寻找证据，绝不会中途停止。看你们这些可怜的人！人肉我又如何，没有办法推翻我的观点只能采取这种下三滥的手段，人肉也不详细些，我是买不起装备的人吗？我是没受过高等教育的人吗？特别要鄙视那些桂林本地的混帐东西，就因为我来自阳朔乡下，创建了桂林先行者户外AA群，抢了你们的饭碗，盖过了你们的风头，你们就想方设法搞臭我，你们能办到吗？我们桂林先行者户外群为什么能不断状大，能健康成长，我为什么能受到群友的爱戴，为什么你们不想想原因呢？你们不是很会人肉吗！为什么搜不到我上周末的行踪呢？难道你们瞎了眼看不到桂林先行者几十人的队伍行走在香花岭古道吗？([]
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